avoiding L.A.'s bad pizza
The Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff Interview


by Dylan K. Petley


If you own an iPod, have ever listened to satellite radio, or happen to know where the headphone jack is on your Mac, there’s a chance you have been either entertained or offended by controversial cyber-celebrity Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff. Several years ago, he was a lone podcaster broadcasting the unapologetically-in-your-face show, Pacific Coast Hellway, from his BMW 3-Series on the daily commute to his Venice Beach office.  Today, this successful novelist/screenwriter is the Director of Content Development at Podshow LA, Editor-in-Chief of Podshow Press and has an arsenal of audio shows that boast over 7.5 million hits in the last twelve months.  Recently, he took time away from generally kicking ass to give The Metropolitan this exclusive sit-down.



Despite your wide range of achievements in writing, television and broadcasting, when people hear the name Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff, the three words that generally follow are Pacific Coast Hellway.  Explain the phenomena Playboy Magazine calls, “The world’s most offensively enlightened podcast.”

MARK YOSHIMOTO NEMCOFF
:  Nice.  The three words to follow my name used to be “released without bail”.  PCH originated as a promotional vehicle for a novel I had written – a podcast seemed the healthy alternative to a celebrity endorsement.   After all, what if someone decided not to buy my book solely because of the asshole A-Lister I’d attached to it?  And with my luck, the star I’d corral would be the guy who drunkenly ploughs into a bus full of nuns and orphans on Sunset Strip with a trunk full of kiddie-porn.


Explain “offensively enlightened”.
 
MYN:  We push buttons and stir the pot on PCH as a form of entertainment to fuck with people’s minds as much as possible.  If listeners choose to take it seriously then that’s absolutely their prerogative.  The blueprint for the show is built around the concept that I want you the listener (who generally lives in a world of discontent), to feel something, be it laughter or total outrage, for just a few moments.  If I’ve done that, then I’ve really accomplished something.  The Playboy blurb speaks to the edgy nature and raw stories that define the podcast, and since, have served as inspiration for my book Where’s My Fucking Latte?


Describe PCH’s following.

MYN:  It’s crazy because it fluctuates wildly.  I’ve had single episodes that have had fifty thousand hits over a couple of weeks, the next episode is much less than that, then the one after that is fifty-five thousand and I have no idea why.  I had one monster episode that I attribute completely to the fact that I used the word, “verizon” in the title.  PCH numbers also seem to vary during the summer when the colleges are out but they’ve been growing steadily.  I honestly have no idea what these numbers mean.  Six months ago, I stopped looking at them daily.


While PCH has generated its fair share of scandalous press, it has also birthed some amazing peripheral projects.  On March 22, the global phenomena, Bum Rush The Charts, made international news as, by attrition, listeners propelled unsigned band, Black Lab onto iTunes’ top 100 charts all over the world.  In Canada, they even outsold the new Rush single.  What are the social implications of marrying New Media to independent artists?  How does this bode for the big record labels?

MYN:  Big record labels are more fucked than Lindsay Lohan passed out on an oil rig.  They know it and their actions (spending millions fighting proliferation of new technology) speak louder than words.  They find one band that is successful and then rush to put out a dozen clones to cash in.  Honestly, can you tell the difference between most of the bands out there these days?  New Media’s tremendous groundswell is happening because there are a growing number of people out there who want more choice beyond the cookie-cutter bullshit we’re being force-fed by Big Media.  Let me ask you something:  Do you see any direct correlation between the fact that record labels sign fewer new artists and their continually falling profits?  It would seem that if the strategy of putting your eggs in fewer baskets and depending on your mega-stars to turn your financial woes around was going to work, it would have done so by now.  We live in an age where any band, good or bad, can have their music up on iTunes next to Justin Timberlake, Toby Keith or The Who and any kid with a buck and a modicum of interest can buy their music.  In this way, iTunes is a more powerful force in shaping music than any major label.


Let’s digress. Talk to me about ‘Where’s My Fucking Latte?’

MYN:  I was a Hollywood assistant to a very, very successful TV composer for three years before becoming the VP of his company and running all the day-to-day operations and finances.  Before that, I dated a TV studio exec for a couple of years.  During this time, I met a ton of other assistants, some who were working with some of the biggest names in entertainment.  Everybody had a story about the job that would make your jaw drop.  I was driving down to the office in Venice one day and the idea came to me to compile a book’s-worth of these stories.  I started making phone calls and sending emails.  Very quickly, I realized the only way I’d get anybody to talk on the record was if I promised never to divulge their names or the names of the famous people they worked for.  Instead, you’ll find chapters like ‘The Lit Agent’, or ‘The Extremely Famous Actress’.  Countless coffees, beers and dinners later, I’d coaxed enough stories out of enough Hollywood assistants to fill a book with some of the craziest shit you can imagine.  You can’t make this stuff up.


At best, you’re bemused by the industry you participate in while seeming to foster a quiet loathing for Tinseltown.

MYN:  Oh, not at all.  Apart from the traffic, the infantile behaviour, the shallowness, the smog, the crime, the earthquakes and the lack of good pizza, it’s fucking amazing.

As someone who is actively creating inroads with New Media Entertainment, what effects do you see the proliferation of audiobooks and podshows having on the future of the entertainment industry?

MYN:  We wouldn’t be experiencing the explosive growth in New Media if it weren’t for the fact that people are looking for more choices in entertainment.  What we’re seeing is the growing desire for the mobilization of content.  Entertainment-to-go, when you want it, where you want it.  Cell phones, iPods, home computers…  Internet video is the new daytime TV.  Nobody works anymore, they just sit in their cubicles listening to podcasts and watching YouTube.  Television networks have had big success putting entire episodes of their most popular shows on their websites and have found new audiences for their struggling shows.  NBC’s The Office was considered a show in trouble until it showed up as a paid download on iTunes.  The Internet represents a new revenue stream for entertainment by monetizing content through paid downloads and sponsorship but major media has barely a clue how to capitalize on it.  What this means is that until that day comes, independent media has a tremendous window of opportunity to find an audience.  In the case of audiobooks, millions of people around the world pay a lot of money to consume them.  And now, they’re starting to discover that there’s a lot of high-quality content out there they can get for free.


Let’s talk about some of your more recent projects. Your audiobook series, Shadow Falls and Number One With A Bullet have been successes.  In the context of these two hits, what gets (and keeps) listeners in a world that until now, has been geared to viewers?


MYN:  Three words:  tension and release.  Keep the reader desperately wanting to know what happens next.  I try very much to approach the creation of each chapter/episode of a serialized story in the same way you would if you were writing an episode of TV.  Each has its own mini dramatic arc so I like to think each one is as satisfying an experience as watching your favourite TV show.  Keeping people interested is all about doling out the suspense… and a wicked cliffhanger at the end of each episode doesn’t hurt either.


It’s no secret that you always seem to have several pokers in the fire. Anything glowing orange?

MYNShadow Falls: Badlands will be coming out in print in 2008, as will Number One With A Bullet. I’ve also just been given the opportunity to launch Podshow’s print publication division and audiobook channel, Podshow Press.  As editor-in-chief, I’ll be signing new authors to book deals as well as taking the best audiobook content that is exclusive to the Podshow Network, publishing it and distributing it worldwide.  This is going to be a tremendous opportunity for writers everywhere to grow and get serious consideration to be published. Also, look for my latest pod-novel, Diary of a Madman, and my upcoming kids adventure story, Transistor Rodeo.


Any Yoda-esque words of wisdom for the aspiring podcasters out there? 

MYN: Commit yourself mentally 100 per cent to your project. People respond to passion and will be able to tell instantly if you’re just daytripping. When you believe in what you’re doing, you’ll find others will as well. Also, do it because you love doing it, not because you think it will be a way out of your day job. Everything takes time. Lots of time. Especially building an audience and a path toward monetization.  Be unique. Play music you like. Stop using the built in mic on your computer. It sounds like shit. And lastly, stop calling it podcasting. The term has done more to pigeonhole the medium than anything else. It’s Internet Video. Tell them you have a show and give them the link. They’ll figure it out.


Is the pizza in LA really that bad?

MYN:  Yeah, man.  It’s fucking awful.


- You can find all of Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff’s shows at Podshow.com -



  






 
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